Department Press Briefing - August 29,
2018
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Heather Nauert
Spokesperson
Department Press Briefing
Washington, DC
August 29, 2018
TRANSCRIPT:
2:54 p.m. EDT
MS
NAUERT: Good afternoon. You’re probably
wondering why we are briefing on a Wednesday. Why not? I thought some of you
might enjoy an extra-long weekend; if anyone wants to feel free to take off
tomorrow we’ll certainly write you a slip to go.
I wanted to mention yesterday I was at the
Department of Defense, and saw your digs over there, or your colleagues’ digs.
I saw your colleague, Jennifer Griffin, Rich, and saw some CNN folks as well.
If you’ve not been over there – boy, that’s nice. I mean, they really have a great
setup over there. So your colleagues said don’t tell that to our State
Department colleagues.
QUESTION: Is it better than ours?
MS
NAUERT: Yes, they have nice big offices.
QUESTION: Do they have rats? (Laughter.)
MS
NAUERT: I did not ask about rats, but it was
very, very nice, and I want to thank my colleague Dana White for having me over
there.
QUESTION: They have WiFi, right?
MS
NAUERT: I don’t know if they have WiFi.
QUESTION: I think they do, yes.
MS
NAUERT: Yes, yes. (Laughter.) But we were
actually over there talking about the India 2+2 meeting that is coming up,
which I wanted to make a little announcement about that today, and mention that
Secretary Pompeo looks forward to traveling to New Delhi with
Secretary Mattis for the inaugural India 2+2 ministerial dialogue
that takes place starting on September the 6th. They’ll meet with their Indian
counterparts, External Affairs Minister Swaraj and Defense Minister Sitharaman,
to discuss enhancing our engagement with India on critical diplomatic and security
priorities. The dialogue is an indication of the deepening strategic
partnership between our two countries, and India’s emergence as a net security
provider in the region.
The importance of the U.S.-India strategic
partnership is highlighted in the President’s National Security Strategy as
well as the administration’s South Asia and Indo-Pacific strategies. So we look
forward to that and look forward to having some of you travel along with us.
Next, I’d like to recognize a colleague of
mine who is moving on to his next posting and will be preparing to head to
Moldova. Some of you may know Joe Geraghty, who’s worked in the European
Affairs bureau, and I just wanted to recognize Joe for truly being one of the
best press officers here in the building. My first day, about 16 months ago, he
helped get me prepped up to start briefing all of you, and he’s really been
fantastic. So I just wanted to wish him and his family well as he moves on to
his new post.
Last thing I’d like to highlight, and that
is something we’re really proud of that’s taking place in Uzbekistan right now.
Earlier today, ourU.S. ambassador to Uzbekistan, Pamela Spratlen, joined
the deputy justice minister of Uzbekistan to welcome the American Councils
for International Education to Uzbekistan. That group is based here in
Washington, D.C. The American Councils
implements U.S.educational programs and exchanges worldwide. It will be
the first U.S. Government – excuse me, the first U.S. NGO organization
registered in Uzbekistan for more than 15 years. It demonstrates our growing
strategic partnership between the United States and Uzbekistan, and
the Government of Uzbekistan’s commitment to meaningful reform and
international engagement. The welcome news represents our two countries’
strengthening of people-to-people ties as American Councils will open
up many opportunities for academic and cultural exchanges between
the United States and Uzbekistan.
And as you may recall, we invited that
country to attend our religious freedom ministerial here at the State
Department back in July in recognition of the recent steps that the Government
of Uzbekistan has taken to improve religious freedom. We commend the government
for its significant progress that it’s made in implementing the president’s
reform agenda.
And with that, I’d be happy to take your
questions. Go ahead, Suzanne.
QUESTION: Yeah, I’d like to ask about something that we didn’t really
get a chance to talk about too much yesterday.
MS
NAUERT: Okay.
QUESTION: Yemen and the UN report that was out this week that
detailed possible war crimes there. I’d just like to get your view on this
report, and the Secretary’s view. And I was interested if this is something
that you expect will inform U.S. policy moving forward.
MS
NAUERT: Yeah. Give me one second. I’ve
got Yemen back here, and it takes a bit to get to.
Okay. First, let me start by saying that
Secretary Mattis and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General –
Chairman Dunford addressed this to great extent yesterday in their press
briefing, so I would just add on to their comments that they made yesterday. In
terms of the UNHCR report that you ask about, we’ve seen that report to
the Human Rights Council. The possible violations of international
law as outlined in that report are very concerning to the United
States Government. We believe that if such crimes have taken place, that
there is simply no justification for those types of crimes. We take the report
seriously. We’re certainly taking a look at the report and urge all parties to
the conflict to do the same.
This serves as a good reminder that all
parties to the conflict need to comply with their obligations under the Law of
Armed Conflict to thoroughly investigate alleged violations of the Law of Armed
Conflict and take necessary measures to prevent such violations. And that
report I think gets us back to something that we have long supported, and that
is a political solution to take place in Yemen. Martin
Griffiths, who represents the United Nations as its special envoy,
has a meeting coming up – I believe it’s within the next week or so. So we’re
hoping to have some additional information and possibly some progress coming
out of those meetings. And I’d be happy to bring you more when we do have it on
that.
QUESTION: Yeah, but do you expect that this could maybe cause
the U.S. to reevaluate support for the Saudi-led coalition?
MS
NAUERT: Yeah, I’m not going to get ahead of
that. I think that Secretary Mattis addressed that yesterday. And so
I would just urge you to go back and read his comments. Saudi
Arabia is obviously a strong strategic partner of the United
States and we work withSaudi Arabia on a host of issues because we
have a very broad relationship with that government. As we have discussed for
the past several weeks, they are conducting an investigation; that’s something
that the U.S. Government has encouraged them to do so, and they have
accepted that and they have given us assurances that they will conduct that
investigation fully.
Okay. Hey, Lesley.
QUESTION: Yeah, I do have a follow-up on that one. Does that mean – you
said you were reviewing the report. Does that mean that aid or any kind of
assistance could be implicated depending on whatever your finding is? Or, I
mean, I’m trying to find out what the – what the endpoint could be on that.
MS
NAUERT: Yeah, I’m not going to get ahead of
any of the decisions that may or may not be made in the future with regard to
that, but just want to say that we take those findings seriously and we’re
urging parties to the conflict to do the same thing.
QUESTION: And then how long will your review take? Or you don’t have a
deadline for that?
MS
NAUERT: I don’t. I don’t know if there is a
deadline on that or how long that that will necessarily take, but I think we
will spend the time necessary to review it as appropriate.
Okay. Okay. Hey.
QUESTION: Just a quick follow-up on that?
QUESTION: I have a question on Palestinian aid.
MS
NAUERT: Okay.
QUESTION: Can you confirm reports that a decision was made to cut the
whole U.S. funding to the UN Agency for PalestinianRefugees?
MS
NAUERT: No, and we have covered this
extensively here in this briefing room. That issue is – the funding is still
under review and we have no announcements to make at this time.
Said.
QUESTION: Can I follow up on the aid?
MS
NAUERT: Sure.
QUESTION: The question that I asked about yesterday. There was a report
yesterday afternoon that Congress actually rejected the aid cuts, the international
aid cuts, as it was submitted. Does that include the Palestinian aid
package? Are you aware of that?
MS
NAUERT: I’m sorry, I don’t have any
information on that. I’m just not aware of Congress’s position on that.
QUESTION: Well, congressional staffers said that. Some – there was some
– some of this information was attributed to high officials in the
administration. So you cannot confirm?
MS
NAUERT: I’m sorry, I just don’t have anything
for you on that.
QUESTION: If I could stay with the Palestinian issue for a --
MS
NAUERT: Sure.
QUESTION: -- minute. Also, the – an Israeli court ruled
yesterday that settlements that are deemed illegal by the United
States on private Palestinian land, which you have complained
about in the past and in fact protested with
the Israelis, that now they are legal depending on good faith. I
don’t know what that means, if the land was taken
from Palestinians in good faith then they can build settlements. Do
you have any reaction to that? Do you plan on protesting, as you have
done in the past, on these particular settlements?
MS
NAUERT: The only thing I can tell you is that
the President has made his position on settlements very clear, and I’ll state
that position once again, and that is that the Israeli Government has
made it clear to the U.S. Government that its – intends to adopt a
policy regarding settlement activity that is in line with the President’s
overall concerns, and that the Israelis will take that into
consideration, and that’s something that we certainly welcome. What we want to
get to is a comprehensive peace deal between theIsraelis and
the Palestinians, and we’ll keep pushing ahead for that.
QUESTION: But on the issue of this privately
owned Palestinian – you have taken a very strong stance in the past
every time it happened that you object to this. What – do you plan on doing the
same for this particular --
MS
NAUERT: Well, we have said in the past --
QUESTION: Okay.
MS
NAUERT: -- about unrestrained settlement
activity, and we have made our position very clear with
the Israeli Government. We’ve spoken about that. They have made it
clear that they intend to adopt a policy concerning settlement activity that is
in line with the President’s concerns and that they will take that into
consideration. Okay.
QUESTION: And lastly – I promise lastly on this issue –
the Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas
told Israeli academics yesterday that the Palestinians want
an unarmed or disarmed Palestinian state. Is that a good step? Is
that something that you would encourage? What is --
MS
NAUERT: I’m not – I’m sorry, Said, I’m just
not familiar with his comment so I wouldn’t want to comment on anything that I
have not seen myself, but thank you.
Hi, Elise.
QUESTION: Hi. On Syria.
MS
NAUERT: Yes.
QUESTION: There’s a report out there that a U.S. delegation
met with members of the Assad regime in Damascus recently. I was told you might
have something.
MS
NAUERT: Yeah. So we have seen that report.
When I say “yeah,” that’s a figure of speech. That is not a yes. We’ve seen that
report. It doesn’t reflect any reality that we are certainly aware of, so that
is all I have on that. We’ve seen that report; it doesn’t reflect anything that
the U.S. Government is tracking at this point.
QUESTION: Well, are you saying that you don’t know of a meeting
between U.S. Government officials and Assad regime officials?
MS
NAUERT: I am not aware of any meeting to that
effect.
QUESTION: Okay.
MS
NAUERT: If we – if we have anything more on
that for you, I’ll let you know. Okay.
QUESTION: Heather?
QUESTION: A follow-up on Syria, if you don’t mind.
MS
NAUERT: Yes.
QUESTION: Yesterday you mentioned – you warned against any possible
chemical weapons attack in – by the Russians or the SyrianGovernment, and
in – afterwards I had in my mind – I was like, where did this come from? And do
you – is it that the U.S. believes that there is an offensive about
to happen in Idlib or --
MS
NAUERT: I think what we are concerned about is
not just a potential chemical weapons attack, but we’re concerned about the
threat, any kind of escalation of violence in Idlib. That would put civilians
and civilian infrastructure in Idlib at risk. We have shared the concerns that
we have about any potential offensive taking place. We’ve shared those concerns
with the Russian Government at many levels, from Secretary Pompeo to
his counterpart, to Chairman Dunford, also to Secretary Mattis, National Security
Advisor Bolton and others. So we’ve made our position on that very
clear. In addition to that, our new Syrian envoy, Ambassador Jim
Jeffrey, has discussed that as well with some of his counterparts.
QUESTION: But you – it’s not that you have evidence of chemical weapons or of
them assembling chemical weapons, just a warning?
MS
NAUERT: Nothing that I can – nothing I can
share with you at this point, so I wouldn’t want you to jump too far ahead and
jump to any kind of conclusions on that. That of course is a concern of ours.
We know those types of things have been used in Syria in the past.
QUESTION: Heather, conversely --
QUESTION: Two things on – wait --
MS
NAUERT: Hold on. Hold on.
QUESTION: Two things on that. First of all, when you say that Ambassador
Jeffrey has been discussing it with his counterparts, do you mean his Russian
counterparts or is he in – is he empowered with kind of sending message
directly to the Syrian regime?
MS
NAUERT: I – no, I’m talking about Russia here.
QUESTION: Okay.
MS
NAUERT: Ambassador Jeffrey and Ambassador
David Satterfield met earlier this week with the Russian ambassador to
the United States, in part to raise concerns about what could happen in
Idlib.
QUESTION: Okay, just – and on that, I mean, obviously if they’re kind of –
mention these warnings about what can happen, are you looking at the situation
on the ground and you’re – and you see some indications that there’s going to
be an offensive underway?
MS
NAUERT: We’re concerned about it. I mean,
you’ve seen the – you’ve read the Russian reports, you’ve heard their rhetoric,
and so we’re concerned about what could potentially happen.
QUESTION: Well, it’s not just rhetoric. I mean, aren’t there indications that
the Syrians are moving some equipment around?
MS
NAUERT: Yeah, I can’t comment on that in
particular. That would be more of an intelligence matter or a Department of
Defense matter, but we’ve seen the reports about that and of course we’re
concerned, concerned about the potential impact on civilians and also
infrastructure as well, in a country that has been through so much.
QUESTION: When you say that Ambassador Jeffrey talked to his – and Ambassador
Satterfield talked to their Russian counterparts, was this about – in general
about an escalation in Idlib or specifically about the use of chemical weapons?
MS
NAUERT: Well, it talked about the situation
in Syria. They covered that, with a particular focus
on U.S. indications of an impending Syrian regime offensive. So
that’s obviously supported by Russian forces and Iranian forces, and
that is something that is of concern to them and to us.
QUESTION: So you do say that there are indications of an offensive. Does that
mean including the use of chemical weapons?
MS
NAUERT: Elise, I don’t have anything more for
you on that. If I do, I will certainly let you know, but that is a concern of
ours. We have all seen what the Syrian regime, backed by the Russian
Government, has done in the past. That should not be a surprise to anyone that
that would be a concern of ours once again.
QUESTION: Heather.
QUESTION: Heather, on --
MS
NAUERT: Hi, Janne.
QUESTION: Thank you very much. On North Korea (inaudible).
QUESTION: On the – on this chemical weapons issue, the Russian – just a quick
follow-up.
QUESTION: (Off-mike.)
QUESTION: Just a quick follow-up on Elise’s --
MS
NAUERT: Okay, just briefly, go ahead.
QUESTION: Really very briefly. The Russians are claiming that al-Nusrah and
other groups are stockpiling chemical weapons and planning an attack. So you
dismiss that out of hand?
MS
NAUERT: I think that’s more false flag type
reporting.
QUESTION: They’ve been talking about this for a while.
MS
NAUERT: We’ve seen that before --
QUESTION: So you dismiss it?
MS
NAUERT: -- where they try to put the blame,
they try to put the onus on other groups, and we don’t buy into that. Go ahead,
Janne.
QUESTION: Thank you, Heather. On North Korea, U.S. Ambassador
to United Nations Nikki Haley mentioned that North
Korea is threatening to nullify the denuclearization talks. What is your
comment that --
MS
NAUERT: That they’re threatening to what?
QUESTION: Nullify the denuclearization --
MS
NAUERT: I have not read that quote from
Ambassador Haley. I’ve read most of her quotes. I don’t recall having seen that
one. I can just say diplomacy is something that we will be pushing ahead with,
and that has not changed.
QUESTION: One more: The North Korea travel ban is lifted or is it
extended?
MS
NAUERT: As far as I know, that is – our policy
has not changed on that. If and when we have some change to let you know about,
I’ll let you know.
QUESTION: But expires at the end of this month.
MS
NAUERT: Okay, well then that’s the end of this
month. I will take a look at it and see if we --
QUESTION: Two days left.
MS
NAUERT: I’ll see if we have any updates for
you on that.
QUESTION: All right, thank you.
MS
NAUERT: Hey, Ben.
QUESTION: Yeah, thanks, Heather. Two questions on North Korea. First,
yesterday you took a question whether Secretary Pompeo had spoken
with his North Korean counterpart after the cancellation of the trip. Have you
gotten an answer yet?
MS
NAUERT: I did not ask for an answer on that.
My apologies, it just slipped my mind.
QUESTION: Okay. If you can ask that, and then maybe not the Secretary but --
MS
NAUERT: I’ll see what I can find out for you.
You know we often don’t talk about our private diplomatic conversations. If
there is something I can share with you, I will. I may not be able to, however.
QUESTION: Okay, and the second question is: You said diplomatic efforts are
ongoing as far as denuclearization, but it seems the cancellation of this trip
is sort of a setback. And then in the statement you read, you said
that America stands ready to engage when it’s clear Chairman Kim
stands ready to deliver on his commitments he made. Does that mean
the U.S. is waiting to see what North Koreadoes, or are you guys
going to do anything to try and maybe add any more pressure to get North
Korea to sort of deliver on their promises?
MS
NAUERT: I think I would say we always stand
ready to engage. Those – some of these things are diplomatic conversations that
we’re not going to read out. I know it’s frustrating to a lot of reporters
because we’re not giving you the tick-tock on everything. The President decided
to postpone this trip because he felt like it was not the time to go on this
trip, and when we have something more for you on that, we’ll let you know, okay?
QUESTION: Can I follow up on that?
MS
NAUERT: Okay, hold on. Go ahead.
QUESTION: Just – is Steve Biegun – are there plans that he goes on his
own to North Korea without Secretary Pompeo or --
MS
NAUERT: I don’t have any travel on Steve
Biegun to read out at this point or to announce at this point, but I know he
will be traveling in the region sometime probably within the next several weeks
or so to meet some of his counterparts in other countries. Whether – whether or
not he ends up going to North Korea at some point, I’m not going to
forecast that. We have no travel to announce, but at some point he will be
going to the region to meet some of his counterparts.
QUESTION: (Off-mike.)
MS
NAUERT: Hey. Hold on.
QUESTION: I have two questions, one regarding when
President Trump announced to cancel Secretary Pompeo’s trip. One
of his tweets, he also – he blamed China not putting enough pressure
on North Korea. I’m wondering if Secretary Pompeo has talked to
his Chinese counterparts and is the United States considering any
more sanctions on Chinese companies.
MS
NAUERT: Well, you know we never forecast
sanctions, so that’s just something I will not address. But I can tell you that
– and we say this about many other countries around the world – that certain
countries – all countries can do more to adhere to sanctions. We would expect
China, just like other countries, to adhere to the UN Security
Council resolutions that it too voted for. So we’d just remind folks of
that, but certainly we would expect other countries to continue to live up to
its expectations with regard to imposing sanctions and seeing those sanctions
through.
QUESTION: And I’m sure you have seen the report about a secret meeting
between Japan and North Korea in Vietnam in July, and it was reported
that United States was irritated by this meeting. I’m wondering if
you have any comment on this report.
MS
NAUERT: Yeah, I can’t confirm any kind of
meeting of that sort. I can tell you, though, that the U.S. and
Japan, just like the U.S. and South Korea, are very closely
coordinated. They talk, we talk, I would say virtually every single day. I’ve
sat in on some of those meetings with the South Koreans and the Japanese, and
we are all in coordination, singing out of the same hymn book, as some of us here
in theUnited States would certainly say, and that is something that has
not changed. We still remain in close coordination on many things.
QUESTION: Heather, on that note, there’s, I don’t know, a big report out
from South Korea that Secretary Pompeo sent a letter to his
South Korean counterpart kind of explaining why he didn’t travel to North
Korea, that the time wasn’t right --
MS
NAUERT: Yeah, I saw that report earlier. I’m
not sure why that – I can’t confirm that. He spoke with his South Korean
counterpart. That I can confirm. We put out a readout of that call, but any
supposed letter, I’m not familiar with that in any way, shape, or form.
QUESTION: Okay. Thanks.
QUESTION: I just have a quick follow-up on South Korea.
While Pompeo canceled his trip, South Korea has announced
that they’re going to continue with talks with North Korea, and I’m just
wondering is there concern that that could undercut U.S.-North Korea talks
or that South Korea and the U.S. are out of sync on this
issue --
MS
NAUERT: And I’ve started to see some reporting
about that, claiming that there is a rift between South Korea and
the United States, and I can just say that that notion is simply
overblown. There is no reality to that. I was just talking about how we closely
coordinate with Japan. We closely coordinate with South Korea. We couldn’t
have gotten to this point where we have been having conversations
with North Korea without the assistance of South Korea and
without the assistance of Japan, and without a lot of other countries for that
matter, but those two key allies helped get us to that position. So while we
may have minor disagreements here and there on different kinds of policy
issues, all of this narrative is simply overblown. We closely coordinate and
have an excellent relationship with these countries and share information all
the time.
Okay. Hey, Conor.
QUESTION: Can I ask one last question on this?
MS
NAUERT: Yeah.
QUESTION: President Trump talked about a couple of different
verbal agreements between him and Kim Jong-un during their meeting in
Singapore. Can you say whether or not a declaration, a joint declaration to end
the war, was one of those agreements?
MS
NAUERT: I’m not familiar with that being a
part of the overall agreement, but I can tell you that we believe that
denuclearization has to take place before we get to other parts, and that’s
been a part of our policy.
QUESTION: Including a joint declaration?
MS
NAUERT: Pardon me?
QUESTION: Including a joint declaration?
MS
NAUERT: Yes. Yeah.
Okay, I’ve got to wrap it up, then.
QUESTION: On next week’s 2+2.
MS
NAUERT: Hey. Yeah.
QUESTION: So on next week’s 2+2, earlier this summer, over 4 million
individuals in Assam were left off the citizenship rolls. There was some
controversy, there were fears about deportations. Will Secretary --
MS
NAUERT: I’m sorry, they were left off of what?
QUESTION: Citizenship rolls. They were left off lists of citizens.
MS
NAUERT: In India?
QUESTION: Mm-hmm.
MS
NAUERT: Okay.
QUESTION: And I was wondering if Secretary Pompeo planned to
raise that issue or minority rights more generally in his meetings next week.
MS
NAUERT: Well, we talk about a whole host of
things with other governments. That particular issue I’m not aware of. Doesn’t
mean that he’s not aware of it, I’m just simply not aware of that. We are going
there, of course, with our Department of Defense counterparts. We’ll be having
some breakaway meetings of our own as will our DOD counterparts be having their
own meetings. When we have an agenda and a particular list of topics that I can
share with you I certainly will, but I’m just not aware of that one in
particular.
QUESTION: Thank you.
QUESTION: On North Korea.
MS
NAUERT: Okay, last question. Let me just call
on somebody who --
QUESTION: Also on North Korea.
MS
NAUERT: Hey, there. How are you doing?
QUESTION: Hi. Good, how are you? Just a quick clarification question
on North Korea. You had said yesterday from the President’s tweet about
there wasn’t quite enough progress on denuclearization. I wondered what you
consider to be enough progress for a trip to be justified in the future.
MS
NAUERT: If – the last part of the question was
what again?
QUESTION: What would be considered enough progress on denuclearization
for a trip for Secretary Pompeo and Steve Biegun to be justified
to North Korea?
MS
NAUERT: So the President said we were not
making sufficient progress with respect to the denuclearization of the Korean
Peninsula.
QUESTION: So what --
MS
NAUERT: That was the President’s position,
that’s the Secretary’s position, and that’s the position of the President’s
national security team. And so they made the decision to postpone that trip. I
think it’s one of those things that we’ll know it when we see it. We stand
ready. We’re watching closely. We stand ready to have meetings, and we will
wait and see what happens. But I’ll let you know when we have something more
for that, okay?
QUESTION: Can I ask you one more question on China?
MS
NAUERT: Yeah, and then I got to go.
QUESTION: There was a letter today from a bipartisan group of lawmakers
urging the administration to use Global Magnitsky Act to sanction China over
the crackdown in western China and Xinjiang province. Do you guys have any
response to that? Is that something that you’re considering?
MS
NAUERT: I’ve not seen that letter. Sometimes
when a letter comes to the State Department, reporters tend to hear about it
from members of Congress faster than we do. So I just can’t confirm receipt of
that letter just yet, but I’ll take a look and see if we have anything for you
on that.
QUESTION: I just want to --
QUESTION: If I could just broadly on – is that something that you would
consider, sanctioning China?
MS
NAUERT: I’m just not going to comment on that
in general terms without having seen the letter, who it’s from, what it
includes. It’s certainly something that we would – we would take a look at and
consider, however.
QUESTION: I just want to ask (inaudible) letter --
MS
NAUERT: Okay. Lesley, go ahead.
QUESTION: -- because it happened last week, but I don’t think we’ve had a
chance to raise it, is that’s the letter from Menendez and Shaheen requesting
the notes of the interpreter from the Helsinki summit
between Trump and --
MS
NAUERT: I don’t have any updates for you on
that. I know that those interpreters take an oath of privacy, and that’s
something that they hold very dear. It’s one of the ethics that they adhere to
and agree to when they take on those positions. If I have anything more for
you, I’ll let you know.
Okay. Thanks, everybody. And have a good
Memorial weekend.
QUESTION: Labor Day.
QUESTION: Labor Day.
MS
NAUERT: Labor Day weekend, yes. Thank you.
(The briefing was concluded at 3:18 p.m.)
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